The Ruthless Economy PC

- Recently, we built this AMD budget gaming rig for just $500 and its pretty good but here’s the thing everybody knows, when it comes to getting the best bang for the buck, Intel is where it’s at, as long as you don’t mind having no warranty, having an exposed to die on your processor and using some pretty sketchy bios hacks, yes my friends this right here is the heart and soul of what we’re dubbing the roofless economy PC, so tighten up your sandals, ladies and gentlemen because this is gonna be one wild ride and its brought to you by Private Internet Access, PIA is the VPN service, that encrypts all your internet traffic and uses a safe, protected IP, it’s got a ton of other cool features as well, so you can check it out at the link, in the video description.

Let’s start with explaining, what you guys were looking at before, this is the QQLTES an engineering sample chip with six cores and 12 threads, that’s clocked from 2.4 gigahertz base, to 4.1 gigahertz boost, that was supposed to be destined for a laptop but has been Frankenstein by the one and only Mr. .Su, so that it can be installed in a desktop, one of these is gonna run you just $125, which is pretty good for a six course, so between Mr Su and Lisa Su, I think he’ll take Mr.  Su any day of the week, again as long as you don’t mind, having no warranty whatsoever, in buying engineering sample chips, really though the main value add here is not the CPU itself but rather that this CPU allows us to get one of these, the H110-D3A is a mining optimized motherboard, you can see it’s got all these PCI express slots here for those little mining GPU adapters, that can be had on eBay for as little as $30 and happens to, we hope, work perfectly with the QQLTES, it’s not even the same shape, the installation process for this abomination here, very straight forward, you go ahead and you take this buddy here with the little notches, you line them up with the little notches right there, there you go, well something like that, oh yeah, you pop this little like carrier, slash hold down plate puppy on here, you just screw these screws right into the motherboard, no problem.

- Alex There’s actual tapped holes on the back.

- Oh, oh, okay I thought we were just screwing into the PCB, well that’s a little better.

- Alex No yeah it’s like kind of legit.

For cooling you’d be surprised how cheap we can go, this right here is an Intel stock cooler, you can probably scavenge one of these for nothing but if you do have to pay for them, they go for about $9 on eBay and that’s not a lot of metal, that’s not a lot of cooling there but the good news is that because were using a mobile processor, it also doesn’t output a lot of heat and compared to the space constraints, that you would have to deal with in a laptop, yeah it looks you know downright frosty. One thing we wanna be careful of when installing the CPU is that were not putting excess pressure on one corner and were applying it evenly because otherwise we could crack that exposed to die and our CPU would be very dead at that point.

Now when it comes to storage, we never recommend cheeping out and going second hand because when you think about it, what’s $10 or $20, compared to the value of your precious family photos?

But this is the ruthless economy PC, isn’t it?

So for our boot drive, we went with this Samsung 840 series off of eBay, it’s just over $20 and does have a DRAM cache, so we won’t expect the slowdowns,  that can happen with DRAM less SSDs and then because 120 gigs just plain, isn’t enough to store any modern games, like warfare type games, you know what I’m talking about?

We also went with a one terabyte Barracuda, that was $19, yeah. The great thing about this is that by spending only $40 on our storage, we were able to get 16 gigs of RAM, I mean sure it’s from a brand that, even I’ve never heard of Time Tec but theoretically I mean, those are RAM chips on their, SK Hynix should be fine right, right, right?

- Andy Yeah 60 bucks for those.

- 60 bucks.

Now it’s time to start building this thing, meet computer case, it’s got compelling features like steel and front panel. It also happens to be extremely lightweight, so light I can’t even get it out of the box. All of this and no more can be yours for just $30, which happens to be $30 more, than were willing to spend on a case in a ruthless economy PC.

Meet the Antec P180, side of the road edition, we got this for free on the side of the road.

- Alex It has features like no front panel.

- Look at that unrestricted airflow,

after we’ve removed these capes up, fan filters.

- Alex It might even have bugs.

- It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

The craziest thing about the P180 SOTR edition is that it’s not even the most defunct thing, about itself, Rip NCIX, to go with our vintage and tech case, we got a vintage Antec power supply, this is an Earth watt 650 watt

and we would describe it as old, reliable, you know it’s reliable because some ones been running it, in their gaming rig for the last 10 years, it might have a something kind of rattling around inside it but it was only 20 bucks on eBay and I’m sure that’ll come out if we shake it hard enough, its hot glue, I wonder what it was holding in place. I gotta say it’s been a spicy minute, I think the last time I built on a P180 series case and tech was still relevant, got them.

It is so dirty, I’m like look at this, oh my God, its dust, oh I thought it was like a mark from the heat of the CPU or something gross, you can actually read the brand, it’s a Zelman LGA 775 cooler. When did these guys go so wrong?

All right I never installed the RAM. There we go, I guess I’ll need some screws.

- Alex Those screws are actually, from the not working system that was in that case.

- Beautiful, recycling, if your side of the road, P180, doesn’t have these screws, you too can check your hope and a prayer bin and hope and pray that you find some of the minute, they’re not wide enough at the head, I would need like a washer or something instead, hopefully they hold it in well enough, to at least finish this video. Look at this class A cable management, we got on this case here, look at this, here’s your little cutout right there, kind of put that through there, plug that into the back of your hard drive right there, a little, something like that, oh yeah, boom, done and you just hope it stays out of the fan.

- Andy That fan is so frisking dirty.

- I also found a screw in it, the top fans apparently connect via Molex, so well go ahead and I really don’t like touching this, this is really very dirty, like it smells, I did it for the views. This is the most dead fan that I have seen in some time, check this out, you can actually see, its popped out of the frame, that’s okay, this one spins,

that one spins, does that just loosen it?

Now older cases like this one, don’t have anywhere to properly mount an SSD, so were gonna go with right there.

- Andy One time I threw my SSD in the drive bay area and it fell out and shorted the back of my motherboard.

- I have a solution, were gonna cable manage it, to hold it in place, okay see, now it cannot fall, see, perfect. Here’s a pretty modern feature actually, our GPU power cable is coming up through the basement, its case really was ahead of its time. Now it’s time to put the cherry on top of our feces Sunday here, this GTX 1070 cost us about $200 and should deliver anywhere from 30 to 40% more performance, than the 1650 that we put in our all brand new parts with warranties gaming machine, isn’t it beautiful Andy?

- Andy Yeah it’s a sleeper, it’s more than asleep, it’s like blackout drunk.

- Wow genuine Intel CPU 0000 at 2.4 gigahertz but hey, turbots working, its 14 nanometers, which for Intel means it’s either very modern or quite old and its coffee language tells us more specifically, what era it’s from, so I’m expecting much pretty decent performance from this thing and it identifies as a Xeon 2400, so like a mobile Xeon, fascinating, this is a 45 watt chip and wait, is this one unlocked?

- Andy Yeah that might not be the CPU, that I thought it was.

- Yeah we put the wrong CPU in, that’s why it wasn’t showing up, as one that would be unlocked, so it needs to be one of these, in our defense they all kind of look the same, while we swap out the CPU it’s a good time to point out, that with a bare die chip like this, it is extremely important to have thermal compound, covering absolutely everywhere on it, if you have any part of it that is not thermal pasted, there is a good chance it will die.

- Andy It won’t die it’ll just do really bad.

- No it could die cause some part of it,

that doesn’t have a proper temperature sensor.

- Andy Oh true.

- Yeah I don’t know it’s easy for me to say, as you know someone with a full time job, who’s an adult and all that, that you know this is scary and I wouldn’t recommend it but teenage me would probably say, well you’re an idiot for buying this, when you can get more FPS with that, of course we need to figure out, if it actually gets more FPS first.

- Andy Its gonna crush it.

- Minor details.

- Andy Absolutely crush it.

- Look that’s what we think but let’s just verify it, okay?

Well lets open up X to you here.

- Andy Oh it says thermal throttling.

- What?

That’s weird were not even doing anything. Oh wait its better now, what’d you do?

Did you just give it a little wiggly wiggle?

Did one of the clips not go all the way in?

- Alex Yeah I think that you just missed one of the clips, do you wanna turn it off and fix that?

Sorry there little CPU, oh yeah so it clicked in but it didn’t click into the motherboard, give it a little wiggle. Wow I get a cloud of dust when I press the power button, that’s exciting. I’ve got XTU open and I don’t actually know if applying anything is going to work yet but it appears as though everything is completely unlocked on this puppy so that’s cool, our temps are good, were idling at around 30 degrees now, which is exactly what I’d expect, which means it’s time for a quick Cinebench, drag race friend you ready?

Genuine Intel CPU 0000 versus rise in three 3,100 and go, ooh, dang, they be sketchy but it sure sketches this thing fast. And it’s the same price for these machines?

- Andy Yep exactly the same.

- Exactly the same, dang 2,800, 2300 points, so that’s a Cinebench win, now to be clear if all you were after  was Cinebench performance, you could also go pick yourself up, a first gen rise in seven, eight core and it would beat the stuffing out of this but remember were after an all-around good experience here and that includes gaming. Take that Alex, boom, who’s got more FPS now baby?

Oh shoot oh my control key-

- Oh you have a lot more than me.

- Wait why is there a control key here, that’s not control, there’s two controls on the left, you’re gonna have to plant the bomb at some point. Oh, no, no, okay, cool so let’s just like stand here and follow our team around.

So were anywhere from around 1015 to as high as 20% faster on our Frankenstein machine compared to all new parts, let’s try one more game. Before we do that Alex really wants to try, over clocking this thing,

so what do you think 4.5 gigahertz all core?

- Yeah we might be able to do 4.7 not all core.

- That’s really aggressive. All right there’s 4.5 all core, oh its dead.

- I was about say give her a bit more voltage.

- 4.5 all core?

- Didn’t crash yet.

- That’s something.

- Do you wanna run a Cinebench?

- I would love to, it’s definitely on the struggle bus a little bit but it’s rather that 4.5 boys, dang 96, 95, ah, throttled, okay so we need better cooling, 1.15 its dead. - Yeah it’s not.

- Okay were done, you’re done, it’s off, it turned off, that’s weird our hard drive disappeared, our partition is gone. That’s why DOOM eternal wont launch. I mean we did say that using used hard drives was something we don’t recommend, at least all we lost were some games. That’s crazy so running 3D mark, we’re looking at as high as 25%, 30% difference in performance, going from our $500 value rig to our ruthless economy rig, making this one even more appealing is the fact that it has double the system memory, which I mean might not be useful in every game but could definitely come in handy.

So there you have it folks, she might not look like much, she might not last for long and she might smell real bad but she’s got it where it counts, the ruthless economy build comes out on top, you can find the links to where to check out all this stuff in the video description as usually happens, when we make a video about this kind of stuff, though it’ll probably all be out of stock, by the time you look at it but hey its worth a shot, you know what else is worth a shot?

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